Another interesting search parameter that linked to CAA, courtesy of Google
posted by Consul-At-Arms at 5:58 AM
Sunday, September 23, 2007
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6 Comments:
I heard a rumor the other day, and it just popped back into my mind now as I was reading here.
Something like this:
Indian tribes here in the US are offering citizenship to the tribe to any illegal aliens that can pay a free, I think I heard it was just a few hundred dollars. Once granted tribal citizenship a person would be automatically legal in the US and could even get a passport.
Other parts of the rumor said that it only worked with Indians in the southwest because many Mexicans looked and are ethnically identical to the Indians, so no one was suspicious when they showed up at the passport office.. something about it did not work very well with very Caucasian looking immigrants.
True or not, I was also wondering if the tribes, being independent nations, could legally allow immigration and grant tribal citizenship to whoever they wanted?
To the best of my knowledge, there are no documents which a tribal authority can issue to someone not already entitled to U.S. citizenship that would change that status.
A valid birth certificate could be issued by a local/tribal authority, but that wouldn't apply to someone born outside of the U.S.
U.S. citizenship, apart from naturalization, come either by jus soli (through place of birth) or jus sanguinis (through descent, from father and/or mother). Currently, Immigration and Nationalities Act (INA) section 301 applies.
According to my training materials:
"In 1866 Congress sent tot he states the Fourteenth Amendment, and ratification was completed on July 9, 1868. The Fourteenth Amendment provides that all persons born in the United States are citizens. American Indians, however, were not afforded the privileges of United States citizenship because they were considered to be members of distinct nations within the U.S. and not subject to its jurisdiction. At various times Congress passed numerous special statutes granting citizenship to members of particular tribes. All native-born Indians were finally granted citizenship in 1924."
thanks, I'll pass that info along next time someone ask me if I think it's legal or legit.
My first reaction was that it was some kind of $scam$
and I guess chances are that is exactly what is going on. Buyer beware
I was still more than a little curious and did a search.
Seems that the rumors were right, there are tribes offering membership, but it looks from these stories, it's just a scam.
But I have to wonder, what would stop a real tribe from passing an immigration law? Are they independent or not?
I suppose that a tribal authority could pass any sort of ordinance or local law that they liked.
It wouldn't mean someone could get a U.S. passport or citizenship though.
ok... that took a whole ton of reading to finally figure out what that said...then after that, I was too tired to even come up with ag ood comment.
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